Are you familiar with Rorschach tests? It's where inkblots are shown to people and they are asked to describe what they think they see. And 100 people can see the exact same inkblots and see WILDLY different things. That's absolutely what I see happening now with Kanye West. How you respond to all that he's said and done now says more about you than it does about him.
Hi Shaun, I just finished this episode and I appreciate you opening the door for the conversation. Honestly I fit into the second group that you identified. I’ve never really been a fan of Kanye, although I have enjoyed some of his music over the years. Not taking anything away from whatever feelings of trauma and or disrespect his comments have caused the Jewish community. I agree waging war on an entire group of people for the wrongs that some have committed against you is not the way. The issue that doesn’t sit well in my spirit though is it took that extreme to be the deal breaker! We have all watched and heard him say tons of offensive things and not just to our people, he was literally disrespecting and stalking his ex, threatening, harassing, and cyber bullying her ex boyfriend (who are white people). And these companies turned a blind eye and continued to do business and promote him. I understand your point that society doesn’t seem to know how to handle or better yet doesn’t get involved when a person says offensive things about their own people, clearly this is evident in the wide use of the N word in hip hop and black culture. It’s goes deeper than that for me though because their have been many instances of non black people and business offending and discriminating against black people and I have never witnessed this type of public outcry. They’re have been celebrities, politicians and other designer brands like Gucci, Prada H &M to name a few who have all basically admitted to their racism against black people, and they’re not cancelled. Now this doesn’t justify Ye’s behavior in anyway, but for me what it does is make the point that Black Lives don’t really matter because anybody can seemingly do whatever to us and it makes not a tap of difference. But say something disparaging about the Jewish community and you’re done! Call me crazy but I think that was one of the points Ye was attempting to make. Why does it at the very least seem like Jewish people are controlling the show. And do whatever, say whatever you want but if you appear to be antisemitic that is the biggest sin of them all? I would have more respect for ALL of these companies choosing to cut ties with Kanye if the reason wasn’t specifically because of his comments about the Jewish community, but a cumulation of his offensive, erratic, harassing, bullying behavior towards several groups of people. Jewish people haven’t been the only people he has hurt. And lastly I want to ask you specifically because I realize just because I don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not happening and I honestly only know 1 Jewish person. But do they generally have our back? Like your Jewish friends when these atrocities keep happening in our community are they speaking out and holding people accountable publicly like so many of our people our doing for them? I follow a few celebs who I’m just realizing are Jewish and going back thru their post I don’t see very many post if any at all about Trayvon Martin, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd or any other of the countless names of our people who have been victims of this racist system. So my opinion would be yes I think Kanye was wrong for what he said but taking a page from their book that’s not my battle to fight.
Hi Shaun, I just finished this episode and I appreciate you opening the door for the conversation. Honestly I fit into the second group that you identified. I’ve never really been a fan of Kanye, although I have enjoyed some of his music over the years. Not taking anything away from whatever feelings of trauma and or disrespect his comments have caused the Jewish community. I agree waging war on an entire group of people for the wrongs that some have committed against you is not the way. The issue that doesn’t sit well in my spirit though is it took that extreme to be the deal breaker! We have all watched and heard him say tons of offensive things and not just to our people, he was literally disrespecting and stalking his ex, threatening, harassing, and cyber bullying her ex boyfriend (who are white people). And these companies turned a blind eye and continued to do business and promote him. I understand your point that society doesn’t seem to know how to handle or better yet doesn’t get involved when a person says offensive things about their own people, clearly this is evident in the wide use of the N word in hip hop and black culture. It’s goes deeper than that for me though because their have been many instances of non black people and business offending and discriminating against black people and I have never witnessed this type of public outcry. They’re have been celebrities, politicians and other designer brands like Gucci, Prada H &M to name a few who have all basically admitted to their racism against black people, and they’re not cancelled. Now this doesn’t justify Ye’s behavior in anyway, but for me what it does is make the point that Black Lives don’t really matter because anybody can seemingly do whatever to us and it makes not a tap of difference. But say something disparaging about the Jewish community and you’re done! Call me crazy but I think that was one of the points Ye was attempting to make. Why does it at the very least seem like Jewish people are controlling the show. And do whatever, say whatever you want but if you appear to be antisemitic that is the biggest sin of them all? I would have more respect for ALL of these companies choosing to cut ties with Kanye if the reason wasn’t specifically because of his comments about the Jewish community, but a cumulation of his offensive, erratic, harassing, bullying behavior towards several groups of people. Jewish people haven’t been the only people he has hurt. And lastly I want to ask you specifically because I realize just because I don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not happening and I honestly only know 1 Jewish person. But do they generally have our back? Like your Jewish friends when these atrocities keep happening in our community are they speaking out and holding people accountable publicly like so many of our people our doing for them? I follow a few celebs who I’m just realizing are Jewish and going back thru their post I don’t see very many post if any at all about Trayvon Martin, Breonna Taylor, George Floyd or any other of the countless names of our people who have been victims of this racist system. So my opinion would be yes I think Kanye was wrong for what he said but taking a page from their book that’s not my battle to fight.